UltimateCheeze ban appeal
#1
Steam Name: UltimateCheeze



Steam Community: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198293250088/

Steam ID: 76561198293250088

User Who Banned You: Minatus


Reason Of Ban: "Go and hack somewhere else :3"


Your Version Of The Events: Ok, so I was in a game of TTT and we were on the rooftop map. I was on a lower area and somebody was calling out that they were getting shot with a poultergeist (the T weapon with vivid orange projectiles). I saw 2 of these projectiles fly from one end of the map to the other and that they were coming from the tower nearest to me. Nobody had claimed a T weapon that round so that had to be a traitor. I had a rifle so I shot that guy twice in the side through some of the windows surrounding him.

Why You Should Be Unbanned : [Write 3-5 Sentences On Why You Believe You Should Be Unbanned]: I should be unbanned because I wasn't hacking. I had good evidence that the person I shot was a traitor and the kill was very easy. it wasnt a super suspicious headshot, wallhacks or a script that reveals traitors or anything of the sort. 
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#2
Hi there, UltimateCheeze I would first like to thank you for making this appeal. 

I personally first became suspicious of you in round 2 of the map ttt_hairyhouse (in logs min40 : ttt_hairyhouse) you had killed me extremely quickly for how far away you were from me and the weapon you were using, so I began to watch you play the game. After another round or 2 I asked for another Admin to watch you with me to make a more confident decision as from what I had seen it appeared that you were experiencing little to no recoil when using guns that should knock you around a noticeable amount. 
So we ended up watching you play over 18 rounds/3 map rotations, being most of these rounds you were either killed super quick or you just did not shoot your gun to help confirm anything so we had to watch you for so long in order to confidently confirm our suspicions. 

After watching you more it became clear to Minatus and I (separately) that on multiple occasions you were looking at/around players through walls, as you were constantly over the entire time we were watching you, you looking directly at people or in in their direction although not pointing your mouse directly. (example of this is on white house when you were upstairs you would constantly check the ground exactly where the people downstairs were)

As I stated before we had to watch you for an very large amount of time to gather what we felt was enough evidence so I have 8 clips of the situations we were convinced you were using some form of hack (snapping/no/decreased recoil/wall hacks).

Hairy house https://youtu.be/FA_krRXobRo
With this first clip if you watch it in full speed and in slow-mo you can see that your gun does not experience recoil or at least an extremely small amount then is supposed to happen.

Hairy house: https://youtu.be/rBkXcYwTMp0
It is the same with this clip. Little to no recoil.

Hairy house: https://youtu.be/eHwS8B4LFLM
In this clip you seem to be walking around staring at both alive and dead players (bodies and even one possessing a prop). You go directly towards a dead ID'd body which wasnt really sketchy until you turned around and stared at the same person (dead) possessing a prop further over on the map. You then try to look outside to see if you can see them, you cant so you leave. When you're walking away it looks as if apuad is getting close to you and you turn around and run away.

Hairy House: https://youtu.be/JD1TDxzLqmw
In this clip you are walking to go outside and then suddenly turn around, look directly at Memedaddy who is walking up the stairs (through a wall) and you then immediately walk towards them and immediately know where they are when you walk through the doorway.

Hairy house: https://youtu.be/PvLDeWk5S9U
This clip shows you checking everywhere around yourself for anyone near by before shooting apuad in the head. This one could definitely just you being a hesitant killer although with the multiple other times you looked to be seeing people through walls I felt this one should also be shown.

White house: https://youtu.be/C3PK7AgjteI
In this clip it seems that you were looking at the 2 players fight through the wall before entering and very very quickly turning towards the Traitor and shot them.

White house: https://youtu.be/R2X1ezIU3Mg
White house: https://youtu.be/TtTvUAmpnwE
The first one isn't too obvious but with the other clip from later in the round i felt it should be shown.

In this clip it shows you look down at barry (which can also be explained by the elevator making noise which could have attracted you) although right after you glance at the 3 downstairs and then straight back to the det in front of you a
nd in the second one you clearly look directly at both of the players downstairs and proceed down to that location. I have cut the rest of this as you go down to them although do not shoot but instead get killed by the detective 3 minutes or so later.


After everything Minatus saw he and I felt it was more than appropriate to ban you for hacking. If you feel you would like to discuss this further I will respond more tomorrow as it is quite late, but I wanted to make sure I at least replied with something tonight.


EDIT: I had to rushed to finish this so I didn't add this last night but

As I think you would have gathered by now you were not banned for any one round or action, although I would like to discuss the round you have mentioned in this appeal purely because you have stated that there was a T weapon being used with "vivid orange projectiles" this is where I was even more confused as no weapon on our server has textures like this, the poltergeist has a blue lightning strike following it that isn't too obvious when being used unless you're where its flying around. Even if you were missing the CS textures you would be seeing pink and black not vivid orange, the way you describe this sounds like another visual aid that isn't supposed to be used on Gmod, although since I didn't see it personally so its more of a question mark.
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#3
Hairy house https://youtu.be/FA_krRXobRo
With this first clip if you watch it in full speed and in slow-mo you can see that your gun does not experience recoil or at least an extremely small amount then is supposed to happen. The galil is overpowered. the first few shots have little to no recoil and the gun as a whole doesnt bounce you around that much while spraying. This is why before doing anything else each round I would try and find one. try the gun out yourself. I have a hard time controlling spray so I usually opt for a rifle or shotgun

Hairy house: https://youtu.be/rBkXcYwTMp0 
It is the same with this clip. Little to no recoil.
as above

Hairy house: https://youtu.be/eHwS8B4LFLMIn this clip you seem to be walking around staring at both alive and dead players (bodies and even one possessing a prop). You go directly towards a dead ID'd body which wasnt really sketchy until you turned around and stared at the same person (dead) possessing a prop further over on the map. You then try to look outside to see if you can see them, you cant so you leave. When you're walking away it looks as if apuad is getting close to you and you turn around and run away. 
l didnt know where anyone was at that point. I think I was a traitor that round and my radar was maybe 30 seconds out of date. I checked the vents. Rather than just wander back out, I decided to wait a bit and point my gun at the hallway. If I fluffed my shots and didnt get a quick kill, I would have a quick escape. when nobody came in a few seconds, I realised that people would be camping the roof or courtyard like they usually do on that map. I vividly remember that two windows overlooking the courtyard were shot out, so I thought I could edge over the ledge and get a good view without bringing attention to myself by shooting the windows out. As I walk into the room it appears I flick to the dead guy, but I guess I was trying to avoid the chair? I ended up bumping into the chair onto the way out. Once you see the nametags through walls, this little segment seems indefensible. As for panda getting close to me and me walking away, you can hear his footsteps and the direction they come from, though I dont think I noticed in this clip as a barely walk away and once again camp a doorway with my back to him 

Hairy House: https://youtu.be/JD1TDxzLqmw
In this clip you are walking to go outside and then suddenly turn around, look directly at Memedaddy who is walking up the stairs (through a wall) and you then immediately walk towards them and immediately know where they are when you walk through the doorway.

I walked away, heard the commotion and walked back. thats all there is. play the video back on 0.25 speed with your fingernail right on my crosshair and you will see that it doesnt lock onto him on any way. I just walked up in the stairs with my gun facing that room in case memedaddy was the traitor and was coming for me next. as for knowing where memedaddy was, i didn't know anything other that there was someone in the room. when I walked in the doorway, I wasnt directly facing him. I only looked at him when I could see him.

Hairy house: https://youtu.be/PvLDeWk5S9U
This clip shows you checking everywhere around yourself for anyone near by before shooting apuad in the head. This one could definitely just you being a hesitant killer although with the multiple other times you looked to be seeing people through walls I felt this one should also be shown.

I am a hesitant killer and just wanted to make sure there was no witnesses. A lot of the times I may look near people through walls are likely because of footsteps. in this clip, you can faintly hear thungo's footsteps behind me so I turn around

White house: https://youtu.be/C3PK7AgjteI
In this clip it seems that you were looking at the 2 players fight through the wall before entering and very very quickly turning towards the Traitor and shot them.

In this clip I was quite clearly not looking directly at them and instead was pointing my shotgun into the room that goes off the curved hallway. As for shooting that guy, I remember being very proud of that kill until I IDd the body and found out I shot the innocent and I was shot by the traitor while I found out my mistake

White house: https://youtu.be/R2X1ezIU3Mg
White house: https://youtu.be/TtTvUAmpnwE
The first one isn't too obvious but with the other clip from later in the round i felt it should be shown.

In this clip it shows you look down at barry (which can also be explained by the elevator making noise which could have attracted you) although right after you glance at the 3 downstairs and then straight back to the det in front of you a
nd in the second 
one you clearly look directly at both of the players downstairs and proceed down to that location. I have cut the rest of this as you go down to them although do not shoot but instead get killed by the detective 3 minutes or so later.

As you said, the first clip shows nothing but in the second I had a radar and it just pinged all those people.

After everything Minatus saw he and I felt it was more than appropriate to ban you for hacking. If you feel you would like to discuss this further I will respond more tomorrow as it is quite late, but I wanted to make sure I at least replied with something tonight




Thanks for your quick reply. I see now that with nametags on some of these clips seem suspicious, but I have never hacked in a game ever, let alone know how to install hacks. I hope we can work this out quickly.

Oh, I distinctly remember orange projectiles, but for all I know, i am blue colourblind :/
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#4
"The galil is overpowered. the first few shots have little to no recoil and the gun as a whole doesnt bounce you around that much while spraying. This is why before doing anything else each round I would try and find one. try the gun out yourself."

I am very very familiar with the weapons on this server and how they are preform. The galil is a good weapon but in now way overpowered, you should 10000% be experiencing recoil from this gun it is not a very still weapon to fire which is exactly why I began watching you in the beginning. I have used this gun frequently over my 700+ hours on this server and the way it handled for you was out of the ordinary.


"l didnt know where anyone was at that point. I think I was a traitor that round and my radar was maybe 30 seconds out of date."
"As you said, the first clip shows nothing but in the second I had a radar and it just pinged all those people."

With these 2 statements I would usually agree that is quite a reasonable explanation, although in the past week Garry's Mod experienced an update that caused the automatic radar scanner to no longer work, meaning you have to open your t menu every time to refresh it, also causing you not to know when its finished charging to know when its ready to refresh. Now I realise you can also bind a key to refresh for you meaning you dont have to open your t menu although since you didnt mention this I would be reluctant to believe this was the case. 

"I walked away, heard the commotion and walked back. thats all there is. play the video back on 0.25 speed with your fingernail right on my crosshair and you will see that it doesnt lock onto him on any way. I just walked up in the stairs with my gun facing that room in case memedaddy was the traitor and was coming for me next. as for knowing where memedaddy was, i didn't know anything other that there was someone in the room. when I walked in the doorway, I wasnt directly facing him. I only looked at him when I could see him."

I wanted to point out that I made sure not to use the words "lock onto" as I did not see you lock onto anyone at all and wanted to be clear that is not the form of hacking I was suspicious of. I was more thinking that in some way you were able to see the outline of people. Now I can agree that its not far fetched that you were just turning around due to hearing gunfire back where you were and it could have just been a coincidental situation that it appeared you immediately knew where she was. 

"in this clip, you can faintly hear thungo's footsteps behind me so I turn around"
This may be just me but watching this over and turning my headset up to the max I only hear one stepping sound and it happens while you are in the middle of turning around.

"In this clip I was quite clearly not looking directly at them and instead was pointing my shotgun into the room that goes off the curved hallway." 
I personally still feel that in this clip you look towards the fight, although I am although willing to over look this as it isn't directly on them just their direction.


Now I would like to end this by saying Minatus and I are not necessarily against you being unbanned, due to you not being a nuisance even if you were using the hacks Minatus and I had determined, although dont get my wrong I do still feel 100% confident in Minatus' and I's decision.We both separately and together saw more then enough sketchy situations, multiple times a round for the 3 maps we watched you.

I will now leave this decision to @Addz our other superadmin to decide the outcome.
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#5
Hello UltimateCheeze,
Thank you for taking the time to make this appeal and also presenting yourself in a polite and informative way.

After reviewing the evidence from Princess Peasants and reading your responses, I am willing to accept your ban appeal and unban you.

I apologize for any inconvenience and hope to see you enjoy your time on the server in future.

If you have any other questions or comments please do not hesitate to contact me via discord (Addz#0001) or on steam (linked in my bio)

Cheers.
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